In this episode of the REAL MOMENTUM Podcast, we sit down with father-son duo Todd and Drew Gill to discuss the powerful principle of "always advancing."

Drawing from their unique backgrounds—Todd as a teacher and fishing coach at Wabash Valley College, and Drew as a Professional Angler—they share how the discipline, patience, and strategy required for spiritual leadership. Whether you are leading a family, a classroom, or a ministry, this conversation will challenge you to stop settling for the status quo and start moving forward with purpose.