This week on Between the States, the guys dive headfirst into the wild world of scams, fraud, and everyday deception, from obvious cons to the blurry line between business, marketing, and straight-up scamming.

What actually is a scam? Is it outright theft, misleading advertising, or just “good business”? The conversation spirals (as it should) through real-life scam stories, shady automotive practices, fake IRS calls, crypto cons, Facebook Marketplace traps, and those mall kiosks that somehow still exist.

Along the way, the crew breaks down:

•  The psychology behind scams (fear, greed, and FOMO) 
•  How people actually fall for scams—even smart ones 
•  The difference between scams, fraud, and “technically legal” nonsense 
•  Hilarious personal stories of getting close to being scammed (and sometimes not realizing it) 

Plus, they tackle questions like:

•  Are influencers and advertising just socially accepted scams? 
•  Is upselling unethical… or just part of the game? 
•  What scams would you actually run if you had to? 

Expect chaotic tangents, brutal honesty, and the kind of conversations that make you question whether everything is a scam… or if you’ve just been in one the whole time.

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