Military veteran and former 13-year-old highway patrolman (you need to hear this one) Rich Evans joins Keep it in Perspective for a wide ranging conversation. We discuss his early days making traffic stops as a middle schooler, going legit as a member of the armed forces, and the dangerous militarization of American police in the age of Black Lives Matter. We also discuss ways to end the violent excesses of the police and pragmatic paths toward a more just future. Believe it or not, you won't hear a more laugh-filled or intelligent discussion of the present state of affairs in our country, guaranteed - not really, but this is easily one of our best episodes and worth a listen. 

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