In this thoughtful and vulnerable conversation, host Thomas King Flagg reconnects with longtime friend and returning guest Jamal Story for a deep dive into rest, resistance, and legacy. From touring life to the emotional toll of saying yes too often, Jamal opens up about setting boundaries, finding joy beyond the grind, and what it means to “rest radically” as a Black artist. This episode is both a meditation and a call to reframe how we care for ourselves in the arts.

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