On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down to interview Jeff Flake, a former U.S. ambassador to Turkey and ex-senator, for an insightful discussion on America’s role in global politics. Flake shares firsthand experiences as an American diplomat, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the thoughts and concerns of international leaders regarding U.S. politics. They discuss the implications of shifting global leadership dynamics and how America's policies under different administrations have evolved, influencing the international stage.

Dive deep into critical topics such as NATO’s challenges in 2026 and the transformation within the GOP, particularly the rise of populism and its impact on foreign policy. Flake provides a unique perspective on the necessity of American soft power and diplomacy in navigating global challenges. Whether you're interested in international relations, political strategy, or just want to understand how other countries view America, this episode promises engaging insights and thoughtful discussion. Tune in to uncover why maintaining robust global relationships is paramount for America's future.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

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