Learning to teach better with Katey Arrington, NCSM President-Elect, and Brian Buckhalter, NCSM Awards Chairman, as we replay an episode of the NCSM Learning with Leaders podcast where I, Joel Amidon, was the guest and talked about "Teaching Mathematics as Agape". This episode is part of the We’re ALL Math People series, where co-hosts Brian and Katey talk to leaders in mathematics education about their inspiration, perceptions, and insights about instructional decisions that make mathematics welcoming and engaging to a broad audience.