The testy talk of testing at the endpoint has been a polarizing topic for the security industry. Ironically, many of the people and companies in this heated debate share the same goal: real-world testing that is useful and trustworthy.

CISOs want to make sound business and security decisions, vendors want to demonstrate the value of their products, and testing houses want to sell testing services. So if this is true, why is it so hard for us to agree?

In this episode of the InSecurity Podcast, host Shaun Walsh is joined by Matt Stephenson and special guest Simon Edwards as they discuss third-party testing and AMTSO’s Standards project.