Are leaders born, not made? Has Covid meant we need a different style of leadership? And what about self-leadership? Today we put these questions and more to Zoe Routh Routh.

Karalyn Brown and I can't wait to talk to Zoe!

Zoe is the Author of "People Stuff" a book that won the coveted Australian Business Book of the Year, 2020 prize.

She's also an experienced leadership expert, coach, strategist, and speaker.