Meet Bob Rae, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Canada to the United Nations in New York. Mr. Rae was Premier of Ontario (1990-1995), Interim Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada (2011-2013), Canada's Special Envoy to Myanmar (2017-2018) and Canada's Special Envoy on Humanitarian and Refugee Issues (2020). We talk about the statelessness, genocide and forced displacement of Rohingya in Myanmar, the global refugee crisis, and Canada's role in the world today. Our conversation delves into issues of the rule of law, how discourse can affect the way people are identified, and contested existence and exclusion.