On this recent California Sun Podcast, I spoke with Los Angeles-based artist Laurie Lipton about creating massive political works in chaotic times, her obsessive cross-hatching technique learned from Dutch Masters, and returning to the US after 36 years abroad to find America rolled back to 1955.

A relentlessly productive artist, Lipton described drawing as an almost physiological need. “I use my work to deal with life. … I have very, very strong emotions, but I need the illusion of control,” she said. “Otherwise I think I’d start running through the streets screaming.”

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