While Joni’s away, Tim and Tracy talk incredibly personal with Salesforce MVP Ashima Saigal about business, mindfulness, spirituality, racism, and women in technology. Tracy cries, Tim learns, and all three of them walk away from a conversation about hard topics with new levels of respect, joy, and awe for the world we inhabit. This was one of our all-time favorite discussions to-date, and we are profoundly grateful for being able to share it.