Professor Philippe Sands and Frans Timmermans in conversation about our common future. The human rights lawyer and European Commission Executive Vice president for the European Green Deal talk with Penny Richards, managing director of the Aspen Institute in the UK. They discuss the plight of humanity in an age of climate and biodiversity crises, sharing their predictions and fears for the future; explore the increasing pressure on our fundamental values and freedoms from within and without our countries taking into account factors such as social media; and consider why we must use history, and “live with it, not in it.”

This discussion was recorded before COP26.
This episode was recorded as a live broadcast on the 12th October 2021.

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