Billy Ayers joins the show to talk all things 'Holding On', his fervent debut record and one of Caitlin's favourite albums of 2025. From Alabama to Nashville, Billy! embraces his southern roots while leaning wholeheartedly into an at once gritty yet pristine journey through doubt, loss and letting go. We're talking cowbells, and why they make every song better, Billy's admirable vulnerability, a perfect picture of his dad and the small team of friends that helped bring this captivating record to life.

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produced and edited by Caitlin Norris

additional prod by Regan Dale

music by Christian Zappia

artwork by Lo O'Hara