Join biologist Kim Franklin in an interview with Ecologist Mike Rosenzweig, Professor and founder of the UA Dept of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, author of Win-Win Ecology and Director of the Tumamoc Hill Research Station. This episode explores reconciliation ecology (how humans can live with and support biodiversity) and the species-area relationship (how to deal with the idea that as area increases, the number of species present, the diversity, also increases). You will also learn about how citizens can help to support biodiversity.