A week later and Nick and Zak had some time to rest! But first, an interview on the floor with Gavin Verhey! Senior Magic: The Gathering designer at Wizards! And one of the people responsible for many of the products you see at your local game stores! We caught him just after his panel discussing the new Casual Play Design team within Studio X, and had a few more questions for him (You can hear that panel Here). On top of that, just some insights and takeaways from the weekend at large.

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