<p>In this episode, Jess and Abbey interview Joe, Jess’s little brother. Who is the favorite? Who was meaner? Who is funnier? Do they roast each other the entire episode or actually, *gasp*, have a heart to heart?? Tune in to find out!</p>

In this episode, Jess and Abbey interview Joe, Jess’s little brother. Who is the favorite? Who was meaner? Who is funnier? Do they roast each other the entire episode or actually, *gasp*, have a heart to heart?? Tune in to find out!

An interview with Jess’s little brother

Welcome to ‘That’s So Cliche,’ where two outspoken Enneagram 8’s, Abbey and Jess, dismantle tired cliches with humor and insight. Join them as they challenge norms, celebrate authenticity, and say what most are thinking but won’t say. Tune in each Wednesday for laughs and liberation!

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An interview with Jess’s little brother

An interview with Jess’s little brother