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An Ontological Conversation about Care and Commitment with Bob Dunham
I invited Bob Dunham into this conversation because I wanted a fresh way to approach a familiar leadership breakdown: too many priorities, too much change, and not enough capacity management. I expected to stay with that topic. Bob took us somewhere more foundational.
We explore what the ontological experience actually is, and how ontological coaching creates new awareness that expands choice. We talk about care as a driver of human action, and why naming what you care about changes how you lead. We also unpack the leader as an observer, including what we see, what we do not see, and how blind spots show up in workplace dynamics through repeated breakdowns in trust, execution, and collaboration.
Bob shares the distinction that changed his professional life: action is rooted in commitment. From there, we move into coaching conversations about coordination, how requests and promises shape execution, and why agreement is often mistaken for real commitment. Bob also tells the story of leading organizational change at Motorola, where a shift in conversations and commitments helped teams deliver unprecedented results without relying on authority.
We close with a grounded view of leadership development as embodied learning. Bob speaks about somatics, centering, and what it takes to act from commitment when fear shows up. If you are leading in complexity and you want a deeper foundation than tools and techniques, this episode offers a different way to see what is happening, and what becomes possible from there.
Bob Dunham https://journeyintowisdom.com/
Welcome to The Ontological Experience with Mark Robertson A space for connected, authentic conversations rooted in the ontological framework and tools. Whether you're a long-time listener or brand new to this work, I'm glad you're here.
Want help growing your podcast with organic marketing and strategy that actually works?
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She's a podcast growth strategist and SEO expert who truly understands the space. Let her know I sent you!
Let’s Keep the Conversation Going:
🔹 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrobertsonpcc
🔹 Website: https://www.theontologicalexperience.com
📧 Email: [email protected]
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By Mark Robertson - Executive CoachI invited Bob Dunham into this conversation because I wanted a fresh way to approach a familiar leadership breakdown: too many priorities, too much change, and not enough capacity management. I expected to stay with that topic. Bob took us somewhere more foundational.
We explore what the ontological experience actually is, and how ontological coaching creates new awareness that expands choice. We talk about care as a driver of human action, and why naming what you care about changes how you lead. We also unpack the leader as an observer, including what we see, what we do not see, and how blind spots show up in workplace dynamics through repeated breakdowns in trust, execution, and collaboration.
Bob shares the distinction that changed his professional life: action is rooted in commitment. From there, we move into coaching conversations about coordination, how requests and promises shape execution, and why agreement is often mistaken for real commitment. Bob also tells the story of leading organizational change at Motorola, where a shift in conversations and commitments helped teams deliver unprecedented results without relying on authority.
We close with a grounded view of leadership development as embodied learning. Bob speaks about somatics, centering, and what it takes to act from commitment when fear shows up. If you are leading in complexity and you want a deeper foundation than tools and techniques, this episode offers a different way to see what is happening, and what becomes possible from there.
Bob Dunham https://journeyintowisdom.com/
Welcome to The Ontological Experience with Mark Robertson A space for connected, authentic conversations rooted in the ontological framework and tools. Whether you're a long-time listener or brand new to this work, I'm glad you're here.
Want help growing your podcast with organic marketing and strategy that actually works?
Check out Juliana Barbati at https://www.julianabarbati.com/
She's a podcast growth strategist and SEO expert who truly understands the space. Let her know I sent you!
Let’s Keep the Conversation Going:
🔹 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrobertsonpcc
🔹 Website: https://www.theontologicalexperience.com
📧 Email: [email protected]