The PAM market continues to evolve and many organizations are adopting the DevOps paradigm where critical access and sensitive accounts are required in fast moving and agile environments. Paul Fisher meets Matthias for this episode and shares his research on PAM for DevOps. They talk about the challenges of this area of application, but also about the differences and similarities with "classic" PAM. And about the opportunities on a path towards a hybrid approach to PAM in today's organizations, in the midst of the Digital Transformation.