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Traitor either way. Stand with the Revolution, and you betray your king. Stay loyal to the king, and the new American governments can prosecute you for treason—and neutrality offers no safe escape. When your country splits in two, whom do you betray?

As it turns out, in addition to announcing America's independence to the world, the Declaration of Independence also gave the new American states a legal basis to prosecute and execute those who aided Britain.

Our discussions in this interview reach beyond the Revolution to the Mexican-American War and treason cases in the 20th century. We also ask why lawyers, usually defenders of established institutions, backed a revolution: they believed Britain was breaking its own laws.

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🚩About My 236th Guest: Prof. Carlton Larson

Prof. Carlton F.W. Larson is the Martin Luther King Jr. Professor of Law at UC Davis School of Law. He is a scholar of American constitutional law and Anglo-American legal history, and also one of the nation’s leading authorities on the law of treason, which is the subject of this interview. Prof. Larson has published the following books:

--"On Treason: A Citizen's Guide to the Law"

--"The Trials of Allegiance: Treason, Juries, and the American Revolution" (discussed in this interview)

--"One Nation Under Law: The Meaning of the Declaration of Independence" (discussed in this interview)

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02:04 Guest Introduction

03:46 Why the Constitution Defines Treason

08:55 Can Noncitizens Commit Treason?

10:57 Disloyalty, Espionage, and Treason

16:58 Treason Against a State

19:14 Patriots and Loyalists: The Allegiance Trap

22:50 When Aiding Britain Became Treason

26:49 Treason Trials, Juries, and George Washington

33:54 How Treason Changed After the Revolution

36:51 Executions, Mexico, and Presidential Assassination

41:02 The Declaration: One Nation Under Law

52:54 Just One Point

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Most Americans remember the Hessians as drunken mercenaries defeated at Trenton. But nearly 30,000 German soldiers served Britain—from Canada to West Florida—and at one point constituted roughly one-third of its regular army in North America. They arrived with women and children, judged both Americans and their British commanders, encountered slavery, and sometimes decided to remain. The familiar schoolbook image captures only a tiny fraction of their story.

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🚩About My 232nd Guest: Dr. Friederike Baer

Dr. Friederike Baer is a Professor of History at Penn State Abington College where she is Division Head of Arts and Humanities.

Her research focuses on the American Revolutionary era and Early American Republic, and she is especially interested in the experiences of German-speaking people during this period (1775-1830).

Dr. Baer is the author of "The Trial of Frederick Eberle: Language, Patriotism and Citizenship in Philadelphia’s German Community, 1790-1830", which was awarded the St. Paul, Biglerville Prize in American Lutheran History, and "Hessians: German Soldiers in the American Revolutionary War", which was honored with the American Roundtable of Philadelphia Annual Book Award, Inaugural American Battlefield Trust Prize for History Honorable Mention, and Society of the Cincinnati Prize. Dr. Baer is an elected Member of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts. She served as a historical advisor and interviewee for The American Revolution, a documentary film by Ken Burns, Sarah Botstein, and David Schmidt.

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--visiting her academic homepage: https://friederikebaer.com/about-me/, and

--visiting her personal website: https://www.abington.psu.edu/person/Friederike-Baer, in which she shares her research related to German soldiers in the American Revolutionary War, including transcriptions and translations of German-authored letters, diary entries, etc., that strike me as interesting (and that have not previously been translated or published).

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28:34 The Hessians Beyond Trenton

36:14 America Through German Eyes

43:20 Encounters With Native Americans

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53:16 Violent Invaders or Innocent Victims?

1:07:51 Hessian Letters Come Alive

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Who counted as an American? After independence, the answer was not obvious—especially at sea, where Americans and Britons could look and sound identical. Sailors had already served as the Revolution’s foot soldiers and carried weapons, uniforms, and other war supplies through dangerous Atlantic routes. Their later battles over nationality pushed the new United States toward an extraordinary system for proving citizenship—and the story also overturns a classroom assumption about the Boston Tea Party: the Tea Act actually lowered the duty on tea.

That last point is one of the interview’s best surprises. The Tea Act lowered the duty partly to make British tea competitive with smuggled Dutch tea.

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🚩About My 231st Guest: Dr. Nathan Perl-Rosenthal

Dr. Nathan Perl-Rosenthal is a professor of History at USC Dornsife. He is a historian of 18th & early 19th-century Atlantic world. His scholarship focuses on the political and cultural history of Europe and the Americas in the Age of Revolution, with particular attention to the transnational influences that shaped modern national politics.

His publications include the following books:

• "Citizen Sailors, Becoming American in the Age of Revolution", which we discuss in this interview
• "The Long Revolution, Creating a United States After 1776"
• "The Age of Revolutions: And the Generations Who Made It"

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23:24 Who Were the Sailors?

31:41 The Deadliest Voyages

37:47 Revolution’s Foot Soldiers

45:59 Arming the Revolution

51:12 John Adams at Sea

54:55 Who Was American?

1:00:38 Proving American Citizenship

1:14:59 Just One Point

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Did America default deliberately on the paper that financed its Revolution? The history most Americans learned blames the Continental dollar’s collapse on reckless printing and runaway inflation—but these notes functioned more like tax-backed bonds. Soldiers were paid in these promises and bore their plummeting value; then, in 1790, the new federal government settled the remaining dollars at 100 to 1, although it could have afforded a far more generous conversion. At that rate, holders converted only $6 million of the roughly $80 million still outstanding; the remaining $74 million was never redeemed, while the resulting default erased a massive liability, helped turn the new nation’s net worth positive, and strengthened American credit in Europe.

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🚩About My 228th Guest: Dr. Farley Grubb

Dr. Farley Grubb is a professor of Economics and history at the University of Delaware, and a former research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research. He is the author of "The Continental Dollar: How the American Revolution was Financed with Paper Money", which we discuss in this interview.

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03:44 The Continental Dollar Myth

06:25 What Gives Money Value?

17:46 Colonial Bills Become Dollars

26:49 Financing War Without Taxes

35:10 Soldiers Paid in Bonds

54:17 Time, Not Inflation

1:01:52 Soldiers, Speculators, and Default

1:13:36 Default Builds American Credit

1:23:57 Financial Crisis, European Intervention

1:29:18 Who Created the Myth?

1:44:36 Just One Point

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Hessian POWs became part of America’s war strategy. Rather than quickly exchange thousands of captured German soldiers and return them to Britain’s army, American leaders had a powerful reason to keep them out of the fighting. But they went further: Washington and other revolutionaries tried to win them over—placing prisoners among German-speaking Americans, treating them generously, and even offering land to men willing to abandon British service. It was an effort to turn captivity itself into a weapon against Britain.

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🚩About My 227th Guest: Dr. Daniel Krebs

Dr. Daniel Krebs is an Associate Professor of Security Studies in the Department of National Security and Strategy at the U.S. Army War College, where he is the director of Advanced Regional Studies Program. He is the author of "A Generous and Merciful Enemy: Life for German Prisoners of War during the American Revolution", which we discuss in this interview.

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"The views expressed by here Dr. Daniel Krebs are his own and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the United States, the Department of War, or any of its Components."

▶️Other Related AAR Interviews:

⁠►Dr. Ivan Kurilla: Why Russia's Empress Catherine refused King George - twice!

►Dr. Ricardo Herrera: Washington's Army: Local Men, Continental Cause

►Dr. Rafe Blaufarb: How France Rallied the World Against Britain

►Dr. Gonzalo Quintero: Spain’s Forgotten Role in the American Revolution

►Dr. Steven Pincus: India's Hyder Ali & American Revolution

►Dr. Rebecca Brannon: The Loyalists: Was the American Revolution a Civil War?

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📑 Video Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

02:57 Guest Introduction

04:21 Who Were the Hessians?

09:26 Why German States Sent Troops

16:49 Why “Hessians”?

20:39 Multinational Armies

27:22 Mercenaries or Conscripts?

40:50 Where Hessians Fought

49:42 Auxiliaries or Mercenaries?

53:24 Hessians Become POWs

55:25 Why POW Exchanges Broke Down

59:21 America’s First POW Camps

1:03:07 Why Treat Hessian POWs Well?

1:08:14 Did the Strategy Work?

1:12:25 Pay and Uniforms in Captivity

1:15:54 Why Americans Feared Hessians

1:21:25 POWs Living Among Americans

1:26:52 Three Wars in One

1:31:56 Trenton Myths

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Canada refused the American Revolution. Continental Congress repeatedly invited Quebec to join the rebellion, then invaded Quebec expecting its French population to welcome American troops as liberators. Yet Nova Scotia presented the opposite surprise: Patriots there actually asked Washington to invade—but he refused.

Even after the failed invasion, Americans continued imagining Canada as part of their new union.

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🚩About My 226th Guest: Dr. Jeffers Lennox

Dr. Jeffers Lennox is a professor at Wesleyan University, where he is a historian of early North America, with a specific focus on the history of interactions between British, French, and Indigenous peoples. His books include the following:

►"Homelands and Empires: Indigenous Spaces, Imperial Fictions, and Competition for Territory in Northeastern North America, 1690–1763". which won the following key historical award: (1) Canadian Historical Association, Clio Award, Atlantic History; (2) Canadian Historical Association, Best Book in Canadian History; and (3) North American Society for Oceanic History, John Lyman Book Award, Canadian Maritime History

►“North of America: Loyalists, Indigenous Nations, and the Borders of the Long American Revolution”

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►Dr. Edward Larson: January to July - 7 Months in 1776

►Dr. Harvey Kaye: "Common Sense" — How Thomas Paine became "Thomas Paine"

►Dr. Steven Pincus: "Modernization" of British Empire and Revolution in America

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Although one of Europe's greatest powers is largely absent from the American story, it was anything but absent during the American Revolution. Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and the Continental Congress sought to break Habsburg neutrality—or at least establish formal trade relations with the Habsburg monarchy. Yet the United States did not establish diplomatic relations with the Habsburgs until 1838. Why? Dr. Jonathan Singerton argues that Thomas Jefferson's delaying and deceptive diplomacy played a decisive role.

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🚩About My 225th Guest: Dr. Jonathan Singerton

Dr. Jonathan Singerton is a professor for Global Political History at the Free University of Amsterdam (Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam), where he specializes in global approaches to Habsburg history in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

This interview is based on his book "The American Revolution and the Habsburg Monarchy" which was awarded the Liechtenstein Prize for Outstanding Research.

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► Dr. Eliga Gould: How John Jay Altered the 1783 Treaty of Paris

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America's independence was not complete in 1776.

The Declaration announced independence, but the United States still needed Britain—the empire it had rebelled against—to recognize it as a nation. It also needed to restore trade with the world's leading commercial power. In this interview, Dr. Eliga Gould explains why the 1783 Treaty of Paris was not just the end of the Revolutionary War, but one of America's founding documents.

The treaty shaped America's borders, exposed early conflicts over slavery and Native Americans, and helped pave the way for a stronger national government.

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🚩About My 223rd Guest: Dr. Eliga Gould

Dr. Eliga Gould is the Harmsworth Prof. of American History at the University of Oxford and a distinguished professor at the University of New Hampshire. His scholarship focuses on the American Revolution, with an emphasis on the entangled history that Americans shared with the rest of the Americas, as well as with Africa, Europe, and the wider world.

Dr. Gould's books include:

--"The Persistence of Empire: British Political Culture in the Age of the American Revolution",

--"Empire and Nation: The American Revolution in the Atlantic World ",

--"The Cambridge History of America and the World",

--"Among the Powers of the Earth: The American Revolution and the Making of A New World Empire "

--"Peace and Independence: The Turbulent History of the United States’ Founding Treaty", which is forthcoming.

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►Dr. Rafe Blaufarb- Did America Betray France in the 1783 Paris Peace Treaty?

►Dr. Steve Pincus - America's Rise Compared to History's Empires

►Dr. Robert Fatton - The Haitian Revolution and Its Aftermath

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59:51 How the Treaty Led to the Constitution

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1:35:40 America's Forgotten Founding Document

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The American Revolution has never had one settled meaning.

Americans have fought over its memory from the founding generation to abolitionists, Confederates, Cold War conservatives, immigrants, filmmakers, and modern political movements. The Revolution has been used to argue for liberty, equality, slavery, union, capitalism, national identity, and dissent. This interview asks not just what happened in 1776—but who gets to say what 1776 means.

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🚩About My 222nd Guest: Dr. Michael Hattem

Dr. Michael Hattem is the Associate Director of the Yale-New Haven Teachers Institute and a historian of the American Revolution and Popular Memory. He is one of the nation’s “leading scholars of the Revolution” and the foremost expert on how it has been remembered. Dr. Hattem has authored the following books:

--"The Memory of '76: The Revolution in American History", which won the 2025 George Washington Prize Finalist

--"Past and Prologue: Politics and Memory in the American Revolution"

--"The Declaration of Independence - A Concise History"

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In this interview, Dr. Steven Pincus compares America's rise with some of history's greatest empires, including Rome, Britain, Qing China, Spain, France, and the Dutch Republic. He explains why America's emergence as a great power was rare rather than exceptional, how constitutions and institutions shape powerful states, and what history suggests about the rise, endurance, and decline of great powers.

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🚩About My 204th Guest: Dr. Steven Pincus

Dr. Steven Pincus is a professor of British history at the University of Chicago. He is a historian of Britain and its Empire, comparative revolutions and comparative empires, political economy, European ideas and Europe's cultural history of 17th & 18th centuries.

Dr. Pincus has published extensively on these subjects, including the following books:

--"The Heart of the Declaration: The Founders’ Case for Activist Government",

--"The Politics of the Public Sphere in Early Modern England: Public Persons and Popular Spirits",

--"1688:The First Modern Revolution",

--"England’s Glorious Revolution 1688–1689: A Brief History with Documents", and

--"A Nation Transformed: England after the Restoration"

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►Dr. Harvey Kaye - Thomas Paine & "Common Sense"

►Dr. Sidney Milkis - Growing Presidential Power

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📑 Video Chapters:

00:00:00 Selected Highlights

00:02:38 Guest Introduction

00:06:00 Congress Rewrites Jefferson's Draft

00:10:50 Why the Slavery Passage Was Removed

00:17:17 The Declaration's Uncertain Legal Authority

00:24:24 Why the Delegates Signed the Declaration

00:36:52 How the Signatures Gave the Declaration Authority

00:41:09 Britain's Response to the Declaration

00:50:02 How the Declaration Became America's Moral Charter

01:01:58 "All Men Are Created Equal" Through American History

01:06:47 Just One Point: The Declaration's Enduring Authority

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"Yankee Doodle" in our videos:

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