Raphael Sidelsky sits down with Anar Chudgar, Co-President of Artemis Real Estate Partners, to discuss her journey from investment banking to leading a $12 billion real estate platform. She shares how Artemis differentiates itself through middle-market investing, emerging manager partnerships, and a strong focus on healthcare and senior housing.

The conversation explores today’s higher-rate environment, the shift from credit-driven returns to equity opportunities, and valuation disconnects between public and private markets. Anar also discusses Artemis’ strategic partnership with Barings and MassMutual, how the firm maintains flexibility across asset classes and geographies, and why empathy, patience, and proactive leadership are critical to investing successfully across cycles.

00:00 — Introduction and Artemis overview

02:40 — Career path from investment banking to real estate investing

06:30 — Building and scaling Artemis Real Estate Partners

12:00 — Strategic partnership and platform growth

16:00 — Senior housing and alternative sector investment strategy

24:15 — Market cycles, credit vs. equity, and investment timing

27:45 — Technology, leadership, and career advice

33:00 — Final reflections and closing