Late in the evening on October 21, 2020, production wrapped on season 7b of Penn & Teller: Fool Us. I had been working on pre-production since early June. While I have written about the show in various places and have discussed it on my podcasts and the podcasts of others, I had never done an interview with Executive Producers Andrew Golder and Lincoln Hiatt, two gentlemen with whom I was in daily communication for almost five months.

Happily, they both agreed to an interview, which we did via Zoom. I think you’ll find it entertaining and informative; I learned several things I did not know before.

This Conversations with Close link is audio only. However, there is a video version of the interview; you can find the link in the Members Only section at www.MichaelClose.com.