Piers discusses Victoria’s new Roadmap to Deliver the National Plan with Geoff Wells, a senior consultant urologist at Melbourne's Box Hill hospital. While Geoff says there's some improvement for Melburnians, the slow pace of getting kids back to school is scandalous and the roadmap is confusing and lacking in confidence. He thinks people who are fully vaccinated should enjoy more freedoms now and if future lockdowns occur once vaccination targets are met, government ministers should have their pay cut.