PART two of Andy Graham's Pelé Podcast kicks off with the big stopper's move to Dumbarton in the summer of 2012. Andy talks about the club's struggles at the bottom of the First Division and their remarkable turnaround under Ian Murray, which saw them almost gatecrashed the promotion play-offs the following year. Andy then goes on to discuss Stevie Aitken's appointment and his sudden, disappointing departure from the Rock. He then speaks about his season at Ayr United under Ian McCall.