Andy Smith talks with James Rankine and Paul Lowe about his journey to leading a church, unpacking the role and importance of spiritual mothers and fathers, as well as investing a life of prayer and intimacy with Jesus.

He suggests that whilst he believes that a harvest is coming, the moment we are in right now is one of discernment and we as leaders need to take hold of this moment and ask God what shape he wants our churches to take now. He also explores the invitation that we have to restore discipleship in our homes, incorporating our spiritual rhythms into our family rhythms and passing on the legacy of faith to those in our households.