In Anger and Optimism, we travel through cyberspace to speak with Nicky Abdinor, a South African registered Clinical Psychologist, International Keynote Speaker, and Founder of the non-profit, Nicky's Drive. Nicky introduces us to the modality of schema therapy, speaks about the relationship between optimism, realism, anger, and hope, and we discuss the progress being made in creating more accessible spaces in the world.

The Fury Pod is produced and edited by Sarah Hiltz and Sandi Barrett.