In this episode, Lisa sits down with Lilly McKenzie from Body Mind Care to explore a totally unique (and seriously fascinating) approach to animal behaviour transformation through surrogate hypnosis, energy work and the deep human-animal connection.

What makes this episode extra special is Lilly’s evolving work with animals through her service “Pawsitive Change”, where she supports behavioural shifts by intuitively connecting to the animal’s subconscious through a surrogate session with her assistant, Ergie.

Together, Lisa and Lilly dive into what this process actually looks like, how it supports emotional regulation and healing (not just behaviour “management”), and the bigger conversation around animal sensitivity, stress, trauma and how our own nervous systems influence the animals we love.

💎 Lisa and Lilly talk about:
• Lilly’s journey from psychology into healing, hypnotherapy and body-based work
• What “Pawsitive Change” is and how it supports animals with behaviour challenges
• How the surrogate hypnosis session works step-by-step (and why Ergie is involved)
• What subconscious connection means in this context and what’s happening during the session
• How animals can carry stress, grief or emotional weight from their environment
• What owners typically notice after a session and how changes unfold over time
• How to tell the difference between true regulation vs behaviour suppression
• Ethics, boundaries and how this work complements vets and force-free training

This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt like their pet’s behaviour is communicating something deeper, and who’s open to exploring a whole new lens of healing, connection and co-regulation 🎧🐾 Disclaimer: Lisa has never participated in a Surrogate Hypnosis session

Lilly’s Links:
Body Mind Care Website
Body Mind Care Instagram
Enquire about Pawsitive Change Sessions

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