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Mary Stevens, founder of Athena School of Karate, joins me for a short discussion on our new collaboration project "Animal Instincts". On this episode we discuss the origin of this unique children's self-protection teaching programme, how to teach effective behaviours, its badge system and the problems children face. 

Music for the Outro: 

"Titans" by Cold Cinema
Link: https://bit.ly/3HjGhpV

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