Climate change can feel like the hardest thing to have hope in right now. But who better to discuss than someone who is literally getting her PhD on hope! 

Meet Anna-Zoë Herr, a Berlin-based researcher who studies the role of hope in ecological crises and survival.  She also works with the Berlin-based NGO Talking Hope, focusing on research and designing communication and engagement strategies. Now you see what we mean - she's the perfect person to talk to!!

In this episode, we discuss what hope can look like even in a world that tilts a direction we don’t want (increasingly autocratic governments, a world heated above scientist’s point of no return, etc) by imagining what can be done even with those realities. Zoë pulls from scientific studies, theory, and real life examples that show the greatest antidote to hopelessness is to find something, even little, in which to hope. Also tune in to hear Timmy considering a future as a "cool German girl" and Abbie contemplating marriage dynamics in rural Iceland. 

TW: Violence against animals.