Anneke Lucas sits down with Andrew Gold for one of the most unsettling and thought-provoking conversations ever featured on Heretics. In this clip, she explores the disturbing question circulating online: Were certain young celebrities groomed, shaped, or psychologically programmed by powerful industry figures? Some online conspiracy communities even point to global icons like Justin Bieber — but what does Anneke actually believe, and why does this idea have such a hold on the public imagination?

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In this interview, Anneke Lucas draws on her own traumatic upbringing inside what she describes as a violent network of influential adults. She discusses how these experiences shaped her understanding of power, manipulation, and the way vulnerable young people can be pulled into environments they are too young to understand or escape. Rather than speculating about any one celebrity, she explains the broader psychological dynamics that create fertile ground for exploitation — in politics, in media, and especially in the entertainment world.

Andrew asks Anneke why so many people believe that young stars are “programmed” or controlled by unseen forces. Is this a reflection of genuine patterns of exploitation in the entertainment industry? Or is it a cultural reaction to fame, wealth, and the pressures placed on child performers? Anneke breaks down how trauma bonds are formed, how predators operate, and why survivor testimony — even decades later — continues to expose uncomfortable truths about systems of power.

Crucially, Anneke stresses that the fascination with celebrity grooming often distracts from the real issue: vulnerable children all over the world remain at risk because of systemic failures, denial, and lack of accountability. Her insights offer a rare mix of lived experience, emotional intelligence and psychological depth. This conversation is confronting, compassionate, and deeply human.

Why do these theories persist? What patterns of behaviour have survivors reported again and again? And what should the public understand about coercion, power, and the unseen pressures young performers face? Anneke’s answers are raw, grounded, and eye-opening.

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