Welcome back to Just For This. Each week, host Rabbi Liz P.G. Hirsch (she/her) interviews women in leadership about women and leadership. Inspired by the story of Esther, we feature powerful stories of women who stand out in their fields, who have stepped up just for this moment.

Our guest this week is Annie Sklaver Orenstein, cultural researcher and author of "Always a Sibling: The Forgotten Mourner's Guide to Grief." Her book explores the deep and often diminished experience of sibling loss.

We discuss the false correlation of closeness with grief, how grief is a true expression of love, and the power of shiva in Jewish tradition.

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