Welcome to unPACKed, an open-minded podcast taking a clinical, *not political*, approach to help pet parents around the world. Join Sailor Jerri and Mattison, certified trainers and canine behavior experts with a combined 3 decades of experience in behavioral dog training.

We are beyond excited for the next evolution of unPACKed that will bring even more transparency to this project.  This season, we are going to be doing LIVE unpacking episodes with our guests before they train with an intern. Don't worry, we'll still have follow-ups with the trainers and guests to hear how things have progressed. But we know that this new format is going to spark some humanity back into the clinical world.

To apply for a live unpacking, see photos of the dogs featured in this episode, or read full episode transcripts, visit us at www.unpacked.stream and connect with us on Instagram @Sailorjerrithedogtrainer and @Freedbytraining.

unPACKed was created by Jerri Scherff and Mattison Skoog-Simpson, and edited and produced by Mattison Skoog-Simpson.  Visual design by Mattison Skoog-Simpson and theme music by Oleksandr Stepanov.