Matt and Rachel are on vacation this week but for a few brief minutes they're joined by the one who makes the podcast possible - Oliver! And then he leaves.

Anyway, we'll be back in a week with a normal episode, a recap of some travel, and some reflections on being a parent of a 2-year-old. Plus, we'll talk about the state of the podcast.

Want to weigh in about whether we should continue? Email us at [email protected]!