Liz sits down with Arizona trial lawyer Tom Ryan to discuss last week’s indictment of fake electors by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes. It’s indictment-thirty for Boris Epshteyn and Christina Bobb!   Links: Gag Order  https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/JustSecurityNY2016ElectionInterferenceCaseClearinghouse%E2%80%94Order-granting-State-of-New-York-motion-to-restrict-Trump-extrajudicial-statements-March-26-2024.pdf  Indictment  https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment%20Redacted.pdf  DM Cantor on Class 2 felonies in AZ https://dmcantor.com/class-2-felony-in-arizona# AZ Central story  https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/24/arizona-fake-electors-indictments/73184206007/ A.R.S. 13-2310 https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/02310.htm DM Cantor on Fraudulent Schemes https://dmcantor.com/blog/what-are-fraudulent-schemes-in-arizona   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Ep 25 — Another Set Of Fake Electors Reaches The Find Out (Feat. Tom Ryan)

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalist Liz Dye breaks down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.

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Trump’s false business records case goes to the jury in New York. Liz and Andrew break down the charges and the jury instructions, as well as debunking some of Trumpland’s wildest lies about the law.  Links: CITES NY PEN 175.05 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-05/ NY PEN 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/   Cohen plea deal https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax NY Election law 17-152 New York Criminal Pattern Jury Instructions (CJI) https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/5-SampleCharges/CJI2d.Final_Instructions.pdf FECA jury instruction https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688857/2024-05-21-joint-feca-jury-charge-request.pdf accomplice liability jury instruction https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688848/2024-05-21-joint-accomplice-as-a-matter-of-law-jury-charge-request.pdf elements of the offense jury instruction https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688855/2024-05-21-joint-falsifying-business-records-charge-request.pdf   17-152 jury instruction https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688854/2024-05-21-joint-election-law-17-152-jury-charge-request.pdf   Written retainer agreement issue https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/new-york/title-22/subtitle-B/chapter-IV/subchapter-E/part-1215 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Ep 33 — Trump Trials: What Does The Manhattan DA Have To Do To Secure A Conviction?

Liz and Andrew break down the latest Supreme Court horror ruling, greenlighting racial gerrymandering to all Republicans to choose their voters, and not the other way around. And then it’s off to Florida to catch up on the latest wacka**ery in the Trump stolen docs case.   Links: Rucho v. Common Cause (2019) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6090361490276671133 Gill v. Whitford (2018) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-1161_dc8f.pdf Alexander v. S.C. NAACP (2024) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-807_3e04.pdf Rudy bankruptcy order denying leave to appeal  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.230.0.pdf Beryl Howell’s order abrogating attorney-client privilege  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.561.4.pdf In re Grand Jury Proc., 142 F.3d 1416, 1428 (11th Cir. 1998) https://casetext.com/case/in-re-grand-jury-proceedings-57 11 U.S. Code § 362 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/362 Giuliani motion for relief from stay  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.195.1.pdf Giuliani appeal schedule  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.195.2.pdf Freeman/Moss opp  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.207.0.pdf Giuliani Bankruptcy Order denying relief  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.230.0.pdf Freeman/Moss complaint for injunctive relief  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.218.0.pdf   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Ep 32 — SCOTUS Says Racial Gerrymanders Are Very Cool and Very Legal

Trump’s lawyers make a bevy of unforced errors as their client continues to march ever closer to a conviction in New York for fraud in concealing the payoff payment to Stormy Daniels. Also, the Supreme Court surprises us, sort of, for now, by not sacking the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and by allowing a Louisiana congressional map to go into effect that doubles the minority representation in that state.   Links: 12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-53/subchapter-V CFPB Initial Report, July 18, 2011 https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/2011/07/Report_BuildingTheCfpb1.pdf   2023 Pew Research on Payday Loans https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2023/06/02/payday-loans-and-overdraft-a-short-history-and-whats-next “How Payday Loans Work” https://paydayloaninfo.org/how-payday-loans-work/ Bankrate’s Emergency Savings Report https://www.bankrate.com/banking/savings/emergency-savings-report/ Alito protest flag https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/justice-alito-upside-down-flag.html?smtyp=cur&smid;=bsky-nytimes CFPB v. CFSA https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-448_o7jp.pdf Landry v. Callais Application for stay https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A1002/309522/20240510115206439_Landry%20v.%20Callais%20-%20Emergency%20Stay%20App-FINAL.pdf Opp https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A1002/309633/20240513120736126_COMBINED%20DOCUMENT.pdf Jackson dissent https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23a994_7mip.pdf New York Penal Law § 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10 Order on Motion in Limine to exclude Smith https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Case-Clearinghouse-Order-on-State-of-New-York-motions-in-limine-March-18-2024.pdf New York Rule 6.11 https://www.nycourts.gov/JUDGES/evidence/6-WITNESSES/6.11_Impeachment,%20when%20authorized.pdf   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Ep 31 — The Trump Trials: What Are They Thinking? (Plus Clarence Thomas Surprises Us All)

The Trump trial in New York is racing toward the finish line, with Michael Cohen potentially the last witness. Meanwhile in DC, Steve Bannon reaches the findout on his contempt of congress charge.   Links: US v. Navarro [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63359365/united-states-v-navarro/  2 U.S.C. § 192 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/192 18 U.S.C. § 3624 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3624 18 U.S.C. § 3632 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3632 18 U.S.C. § 3633 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3633 Sentencing Project on the First Step Act https://www.sentencingproject.org/policy-brief/the-first-step-act-ending-mass-incarceration-in-federal-prisons/ Gov. Abbott pardons Daniel Perry immediately after Texas parole board recommendation https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/state/2024/05/16/daniel-perry-pardon-recommended-garrett-foster/73719220007/ Jim Jordan Letter NYAG James https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/JDJ%20to%20AG%20Letitia%20James%20re%20Colangelo.pdf  Judiciary Subcommittee on Weaponization of Federal Government Hearing https://judiciary.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/hearing-weaponization-federal-government-8    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Ep 30 — The Trump Trials: SLEAZE-A-PALOOZA!

Liz and Andrew check in on the latest hilarity from Stefanie Lambert, the Kraken alum who’s now been arrested twice for trying to overthrow the 2020 election. Then, they break down last week in Trump’s NY trial with a focus on Stormy Daniels’ testimony and what the DA’s office has left to prove.   Links: New York Penal Law § 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10 Dominion v. Byrne Lambert Motion to Adjourn  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316.98.0.pdf Dominion v. Byrne supplemental minute order  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60120428/us-dominion-inc-v-byrne/?filed_after=&filed;_before=&entry;_gte=&entry;_lte=&order;_by=desc#minute-entry-389654982 Dominion v. Byrne Lambert supplemental filing  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316.101.0.pdf Dominion v. Byrne minute order rescheduling hearing  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60120428/us-dominion-inc-v-byrne/?filed_after=&filed;_before=&entry;_gte=&entry;_lte=&order;_by=desc#minute-entry-389808159 Quinta Jurecic Lawfare article on Trump NY  https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-must-prosecutors-prove-in-trump-s-ny-trial Federal Election Campaigns Act of 1971, 52 U.S.C. § 30101 et seq.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/subtitle-III/chapter-301/subchapter-I FEC dismissal of Stormy Daniels inquiry (2021)  https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Just-Security-Hush-Money-New-York-Trump-Clearinghouse-—-FEC-Michael-Cohen-et-al.-FEC-Case-Dismissal-Commissioners-Statement-of-Reasons-April-26-2021.pdf FEC dissent re dismissal of Stormy Daniels inquiry  https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Just-Security-Hush-Money-New-York-Trump-Clearinghouse-—-Michael-Cohen-et-al.-FEC-Case-Dissent-from-Dismissal-Commissioners-Statement-of-Reasons-May-6-2021.pdf New York election law § 17-152 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/ELN/17-152 People v. Taveras, 12 N.Y.3d 21 (N.Y. 2009) https://casetext.com/case/people-v-taveras-41  Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Ep 25 — Another Set Of Fake Electors Reaches The Find Out (Feat. Tom Ryan)

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