In this episode, Madeline chats with her friend and optometrist Randy Fortkamp. During their conversation, they discuss the many different ways to be an optometrist, why he ended up at IU, how his degrees worked, his time at a pharmacy plant, how he met his wife, Hoosier Awakenings 1 and 4, boundaries on your time, the importance of who you surround yourself with, everyday evangelism, and so much more!

During the course of their conversation, they make many references which you can explore. Some of these references include episode 9 of this podcast and the Maria Stein Relic Shrine in Ohio.

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Don't forget to go out there, and be a light to this world!