Continuing the theme of the previous interview with Dr. Thea Riofrancos, I spoke with Dr. Mijin Cha about the ethical concerns that come with trying to transition away from fossil fuels and to a clean energy system.

A Just Transition for All: Workers and Communities for a Carbon-Free Future

Additional resources she recommended:

Climate and Community Institute

The Climate Jobs Institute at Cornell University

Labor Network for Sustainability

How to Blow Up a Pipeline by Andreas Malm

In upcoming episodes, I'll speak a bit more about some ways to shift behavior and political power that align with these last two conversations:

Connected to Place Regenerating Nature, Communities, and Local Economies Through Systems Change by Matt Biggar

I also have an interview about a historical period that's not

Born in Flames: The Business of Arson and the Remaking of the American City by Bench Ansfield

Music is by Evan Schaeffer