Anthony Tamasi and I discuss various aspects of Anthony’s life: his work history going back to his first job at age thirteen, his move from Massachusetts to New Hampshire, his experiences and aspirations as a musician, and his professional life as a custodian and union laborer. We also get into the importance of leisure (check out episode 1 with Joanne B. Ciulla if this is a topic you’d like to hear more about), what it means to be skilled versus educated, and several anecdotes that showcase the difficulties of interpersonal dynamics on the job.