Dez Holmes talks to Meera Spillett about the key elements of anti-racist systems leadership. They reflect on an excellent briefing authored by Meera that has been published by Research in Practice. Meera is a former Director of Children’s Services and social worker, with over 40 years’ experience in social care, education and public sector partnerships. Part one looks at terminology, the roots of racism and whether the steps of progress have the unintended impact of making people think the problem is solved. View the accompanying reflective questions:https://www.researchinpractice.org.uk/all/content-pages/podcasts/anti-racist-systems-leadership/