Dez Holmes talks to Meera Spillett about the key elements of anti-racist systems leadership. They reflect on an excellent briefing authored by Meera that has been published by Research in Practice. Meera is a former Director of Children’s Services and social worker, with over 40 years’ experience in social care, education and public sector partnerships. Part two looks how we can do the work necessary to combat racism without placing the burden on those who experience racism. . View the accompanying reflective questions: https://www.researchinpractice.org.uk/all/content-pages/podcasts/anti-racist-systems-leadership/