Host Mair Allen chats with poet Sally Wen Mao about her essay High-Rise Syndrome published in The Believer magazine, temporality and the self portrait, and poetry as a refusal of silencing. Mao reads her poem Batshit featured in the anthology Together in a Sudden Strangeness (ed. Alice Quinn). Part 2 of 2.

This episode was produced by Amy Mills Klipstine and mastered by Samantha Rahmani. Graphic design by Lisa Croce.