Host Kevin Cummins engages author Anne Liu Kellor about her path to publishing Heart Radical: A Search for Language, Love, and Belonging, her memoir about a bilingual, mixed-race American woman's three-year sojourn in China, the country of her mother's birth. The writers discuss racial identity, free-writing, and silence.

This episode was produced and mastered by Samantha Rahmani, Amy Mills Klipstine, Kevin Cummins, Tracey Simmons, and Lee Takemoto Salo.