"I no longer give anxiety decision making power in my life," says Ashley C. Ford. There was a long time when I just leaned into my anxiety, she says, but now, she can separate the feelings from reality and dive in anyway.

"Anxiety and depression are liars," Ashley says. So how to put them in their place? That's what we share on this podcast. Feelings are not facts.

We also talk about the relationship between class privilege, race, and upbringing in managing mental health. 

PS: My husband says I can't decorate for Christmas until well after Thanksgiving, but Ashley and I disagree. She's starting Sunday after Thanksgiving. I want to as well. Where do you stand? Let me know @morraam on Twitter.