In this double episode we chat a lot about anxiety. It all started with Katie and Des chatting about Des finding some old diary entries where to his surprise he was writing about being anxious in his early 20s. It leads to a conversation about what they both think is anxiety as a disorder vs what is just normal stress. While editing Des decided there were too many unanswered questions so he went and chatted to Caroline Foran from Owning It: the anxiety podcast. She was able to chat about the science behind whats going on in your br and how it triggers stress responses and also about various ways to cope. She also shares her own story about how anxiety brought her to a difficult place in her own life. Listen all at once or break it up. Its a long but worthwhile listen.

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