COVID-19 has left many cities stuck in a halt. In this special podcast, Chi first takes a short tour in the "paused" New York City, one of the epicenters of the pandemic. He then interviews with Shun who is from Hubei - the region where COVID-19 first emerged. What are the positives we can get out of a lockdown situation? How do we make things better for everyone? Let's brainstorm together! Episode link: https://www.chinesepod.com/4298