For episode five, we're joined by special guest Violet Vang to explore the meeting place of special interests AKA SPINS and the first line profile in human design. We unpack the misrepresentation of special interests as ‘how weird and annoying you are’ and reorient towards joy, motivation, and enthusiasm. The episode is a rambling amble through different ways of knowing, what it means to reach a foundation of knowing, and the pure delight of making new connections.