The third episode of APHIDS LISTENS is a conversation between Mish and Talya Rubin. Talya is a poet and performance maker living in Fremantle (WA). She is a co-founder of Too Close to the Sun, who make performance work that takes a hybrid form, weaving non-linear narratives that combine rich text, video, sound and objects to transcend expectations of theatrical storytelling and create resonant experiences for audiences.