Mish Grigor chats with artist Harriet Gillies about new weird art and performance, including Jeremy Shaw's Liminals, and her own practice - Harriet has most recently been working with Xanthe Dobbie, creating PleasureDome for Sydney Festival with Griffin Theatre. They discuss art, technology, and reality. Mish misquotes her young friend, stating AFKEY - instead of AFK - when talking about being away from her keyboard as the new phrase describing life away from the internet. Harriet also details how the internet and memes have fed into her creative thinking.