API Case Files

Rachel Bond is a licensed psychotherapist in Maryland who helps victims of trauma and other experiences that are difficult to cope with - including anomalous experiences.

This Conversation is a lightly edited version of the video Livestream Rachel participated in on April 6th, 2026.

Links

The API Livestream Episode

Rachel's Psychology Today Profile

Report your sighting or experience to API

Restore Healing

Credits

Host and Producer: Paul Carr

Music: DJ Spooky

Our special guest is Erica Lukes of the Expanding Frontiers organization, and of UFO Classified. Links from the show: Expanding Frontiers: https://www.expandingfrontiersresearch.org/

Support Expanding Frontiers on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ExpandingFrontiersResearch

The Saucer Life podcast: https://saucerlife.com/

Report your recent UFO sighting: https://reportaufo.org

API witness FAQ: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/witness-faq/

Erica's bio: Erica Lukes is an experienced podcaster and longtime popular video show host. As executive director of Expanding Frontiers Research, Erica conducts engaging interviews with journalists, researchers and experts on a variety of social and technical issues, including cults, cybersecurity, the environment, and the overlapping of the intelligence and UFO communities. She also facilitates the Expanding Frontiers Archive, an online group of special collections inspired by a physical archive Erica maintains that includes files representing the life work of select pioneers of UFO research. Due to the organization's effective use of public records requests and subsequent reporting, Expanding Frontiers Research was the recipient of an annual state-wide award from the Utah Investigative Journalism Project. Erica's investigation of UFOs includes conducting hundreds of interviews on her popular UFO Classified podcast; a far above-average familiarity with what she came to assess as the unverified claims surrounding the Skinwalker Ranch; and serving as state director of Utah MUFON before becoming disappointed in the organization's leadership. Erica studied music and voice at the University of Utah and is a longtime successful Salt Lake City business owner in the health and wellness industry.

Episode 2 of API Case Files Live - the audio only version. We were joined by UFO historian Jeff Knox.

Jeff Knox's work on Bluebook Unknowns: https://uapdiscovery.discourse.group/c/blue-book-unknowns/13

Jeff's show with Rachel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCxSnv17MgEd5BOzIjugSmDQ

Video summary of the West Virginia case: https://youtu.be/KfNaWbHxHhs

Contact us about becoming a panelist: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/contact-us/

Become an API investigator: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/join-api/

Our new number: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/weve-updated-our-hotline-number-again/

Report your UFO sighting: https://reportaufo.org

We went in depth with Marsha Barnhart on a high strangeness case that was big for us, case 12-058. The events in this case largely took place in Ocean City, Maryland. We play several audio clips from the primary witness and those close to him that had not previously been made public.

Contact us about becoming a panelist: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/contact-us/

Become an API investigator: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/join-api/

Our new hotline number: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/weve-updated-our-hotline-number-again/

Report your UFO sighting: https://reportaufo.org

Released: 30 July 2023

Duration: 54 Minutes 21 Seconds

This is our first anonymous API Conversation, although we are using his real first name of our Witness. A former Air Force F111 technician tells us his story about a UFO encounter captured on RADAR at Cannon Air Force base in New Mexico in the mid 1970s, and what followed after that.

If you served with Airman Pat at Cannon AFB in the mid 1970s, or if you were in Clovis, NM at that time, we'd like to hear your side of the story.

Music by the Mini Vandals and Carl Goddeu.

Links

Transcript for this Episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT5I9on4sNHT7rRQtq8LYATPP4ayGp2y4m0GdCvpEJV5BL5fSmpGBlA8WppUDdNY7xf8C9rm_6PvrM5/pub

The 1976 Cannon Air Force Base UFO encounters: https://www.ufoinsight.com/ufos/sightings/1976-cannon-air-force-base-ufo

Cannon Air Force Base UFO Incident: https://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/1976-cannon-airforce-base-ufo-incident/

To contact API: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/contact-us/

To report a sighting: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/report-a-ufo/

The API Case Fiels Podcast page: https://apicasefiles.com

The API Video Page: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/api-youtube-channel/

Our Investigations page: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/api-investigations/

Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/apicasefiles

Recorded: May 5, 2022 Duration: 1 hour 47 minutes

Marsha Barnhart talks to Dr. Joan Bird, author of the book Montana UFOs and Extraterrestrials: Extraordinary Stories of Documented Sightings and Encounters. \

Dr. Bird is a Zoologist who specialized in animal behavior. She moved to Montana in 1973 to pursue graduate studies in zoology at the University of Montana, and in 1983 she completed her Ph.D. on inter-island variation in West Indian finches. Dr. Bird worked as a conservation biologist for the Montana Environmental Information Center, The Nature Conservancy, and Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks. She has also worked as a fire lookout in both Washington and Montana. Joan freelanced as a nature interpretation writer and has written numerous articles for scientific and conservation publications. Actively involved in women's empowerment, she was a columnist for Crone Magazine. A lifelong student of unexplained phenomena and long-time member of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, she has worked as a community educator and change agent.

When Joan was a teenager, her mother had a near death experience. This engendered a lifelong interest in exploring paranormal and esoteric subjects. And, although steeped in scientific materialism from her academic training, Dr. Bird eventually began to study and attempt to understand the inexplicable.

In this episode of API Conversations, Marsha and Dr. Bird discuss the contents of her book, Montana UFOs and Extraterrestrials, and delve into a host of related philosophies, concepts and theories regarding UFO's, the ET Hypothesis, the Nature of Reality, the possibility of Past Lives and the value of Consciousness Studies.

Links

Transcript of this Episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRpBKZRw1Vsa6JDRKwHzyAuyS59xy-xWrSb2p9qIBf2GhfLsJOE0HIAK6OWqL_zF1szBNpgVah3-ef9/pub

Dr. Joan R Bird, Montana UFOs and Extraterrestrials:

https://www.amazon.com/Montana-UFOs-Extraterrestrials-Extraordinary-Documented/dp/1606390570

https://www.humanitiesmontana.org/programs/ufos-and-extraterrestrials-in-montana-with-joan-bird/

The Nick Mariana UFO Incident:

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nick_Mariana_UFO_Footage_1950_Great_Falls_Montana.webm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_UFO_incident

The Malmstrom AFB UFO Incident

https://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgziDyPSUog

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/malmstromufo.pdf

ET 101 The Cosmic Instruction Manual:

https://www.amazon.com/T-101-Instruction-

There is a River, the Story of Edgar Cayce:

https://www.amazon.com/Story-Edgar-Cayce-There-

Passport to the Cosmos:

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Cosmos-Human-Transformation-Encounters/dp/0609805576

The More Beautiful World:

https://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Hearts-Possible-Sacred-Activism/dp/1583947248

Credits

Producer and host: Marsha Barnhart

Music credits:

D.J. Spooky "Check Your Math"

David Allegro "Hybrid"

Released: 26 July 2021

Duration: 42 minutes, 41 seconds

This episode of API Case Files covers three recent cases.

Paul reports on a daylight sighting from the Isle of Man (Case 21-023) detailing how two men pursued three orbs until the lights disappeared. This encounter took place May 27th, 2021 and is especially provocative because a day before some else on the Island of Man saw and reported a single orb just like what our Witness saw.

Two days before the Isle of Man sighting, a Witness in Brooklyn, NY shot footage of three self-illuminated orbs in a triangle configuration cruising up the East River towards Manhattan. Marsha interviewed the Witness in that case.

Marsha also details a case from central Ohio of a mother and son who had a close encounter that so startled their senses they became sick to their stomachs for several hours afterwards.

Witness Sketches in case 20-018 (Ohio)

Links:

Video in Case 21-023 (Isle of Man): https://youtu.be/nm8m_UuAyOk

Witness submitted video in Case 21-026 (Brooklyn): https://youtu.be/RBdRMDU9z_A

Report of Investigation for Case 21-018 (Ohio): https://aerial-phenomenon.org/redacted-report-of-investigation-for-case-21-018-ohio/

Our Investigations page: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/api-investigations/

Report your UFO sighting: https://reportaufo.org

Our Witness FAQ: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/witness-faq/

Our Ethics policy: https://aerial-phenomenon.org/about-api/api-ethics-statement/

Credits:

Producer and host: Marsha Barnhart

Post production: Paul Carr

Music credits (order of appearance):

Alien Chronicler/Box Cat Games Pinckney Z-Arc Alien Chronicler I am Free DJ Spooky

Released: 7 June 2021

Duration: 59 minutes, 30 seconds

Central Casting Saucer Spotted Outside Louisville; a Colorado Campout Overhead Light Show; and a Terrifying Idaho Orb Encounter

Several really good cases to cover in this episode! A mother and daughter saw a right-out-of-central-casting flying saucer maneuvering over them in the early evening of December 11, 2020. They were in a large urban area just outside Louisville. And we hear from a Colorado camper who got more than he bargained for under the stars the night of May 13, 2021: a mass of seemingly connected white lights cavorting in the sky for several hours as he and a companion took in the spectacle. A Witness in Caldwell, Idaho on May 17, 2021 recorded an orb flying along that seemingly changed directions to fly towards him. It stopped momentarily over his house as he took cover under an awning in fear of what it might do next!

Also in this podcast, Paul Carr presents another in his series of Unidentified Science episodes. He covers the issues surrounding fallible human recall.

We also introduce you to our newest API Investigator, Roger Draper. He hails from the San Francisco area and, with a background in law enforcement, investigation, and his DOD experience, he's a real bonus addition to the team!

Links:

Case 20-045 Middletown, KY Witness Drawing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NQJZtgsw1huwyygaDTnIlMEB8x-oNg2c/view?usp=sharing

Case 21-021 Pueblo, CO Link to Witness Drawing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vS8e78BbTtoUGbmriL2k09e09TkVIT_D/view?usp=sharing

Link to 21-021 Witness Footage: https://youtu.be/NokywRtMy0E

Case 21-019 Caldwell, ID Link to Footage on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/nf2udx/i_just_saw_this_tonight_i_hope_theres_an/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

API Website http://aerial-phenomenon.org/

Make a UFO Report: https://reportaufo.org

API Investigations: http://aerial-phenomenon.org/api-investigations/

Credits:

Producer: Marsha Barnhart

Post production: Paul Carr

Music:

Alien Chronicler: "TractorBeamed" and "Pretend It's Just a Dream" https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Alien%20Chronicler

Rhennessey: "Feelings" https://soundcloud.com/rrhennessey

RainSleep: "Translucent Heart" https://freemusicarchive.org/curator/Creative_Commons

BoxCat Games: https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Box%20Cat%20Games

Alien Chronicler: https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Alien%20Chronicler

D J Spooky: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/DJ_Spooky/none_given_1098/14_-_DJ_Spooky_-_Check_Your_Math

This podcast is released under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-alike license.

Released: 11 November 2020

Duration: 60 minutes

Lots of cases to discuss!

The API team is joined by two new members, Molly and Dan.

Paul goes into detail on a dazzling Ohio sighting with terrific night vision camera footage, and talks about a recently reported 2014 close encounter experienced by a woman in San Francisco.

Marsha presents cases in TN and GA that COULD be drones, but may be true unknowns. She also highlights the issue of hyper-sensitivity to UFO sightings by some Witnesses.

Paul and Marsha discuss a case in Estonia, new Investigator Molly talks about her first case, and the team ruminates on a brief blue flash seen in the sky near Tokyo bay.

Links: Case 20-030 Lakeview, OH

Footage on API Case Files YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7wVeAM50tY

Case 20-023 San Francisco, CA: https://myufowebsite.com/2019/05/27/august-30-2014/ Case 20-038 (Estonia):

Full image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jqKDupx94QMclBRKIThYkwlSY_51d28N/view?usp=sharing

Zoomed image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kIMJE1ipW8aBRAMi_H95uh3N--u82I7L/view?usp=sharing

Credits:

Host and Producer: Marsha Barnhart

Contributors: Molly, Dan, Paul

Postproduction: Paul Carr

Episode 16 Music: Devildog by Ergo Phizmiz:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5427375/

Extrapolation by Scott Buckley

https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/library/

Translucent Heart by Rain Sleep

https://freemusicarchive.org/curator/Creative_Commons

Close to the Distance by Scott Holmes

https://www.scottholmesmusic.com/

Biggie by Biggie

https://freemusicarchive.org/curator/Creative_Commons

Enclosed by Ketsa:

https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa/

BoxCat Games:

https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Box%20Cat%20Games

Alien Chronicler:

https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Alien%20Chronicler

D J Spooky: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/DJ_Spooky/none_given_1098/14_-_DJ_Spooky_-_Check_Your_Math

Recorded: 25 March 2020

Released: 26 March 2020

Duration: 69 minutes, 36 seconds

A conversation with UFO blogger and researcher Curt Collins of the blog Blue Blurry Lines. Recently, together with Roger Glassel, Curt has published research into the complicated and ethically thorny relationship between the government's AAWSAP program, Bigelow Aerospace, and MUFON.

Links:

Blue Blurry Lines

Tim McMillan: Inside the Pentagon's Secret UFO Program

The Pentagon UFO Program's Secret Partner

Breaking the Silence: AATIP's Secret Partner Speaks

Keith Basterfield: AATIP or AAWSA

Paul Dean: The Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Application Program

Conversation with Simone Mendez

The Carpenter Affair

Tyler Rogoway: Tom DeLonge's Origin Story For To The Stars Academy Describes A Government UFO Info Operation

Bigelow Aerospace Lays off All Employees

The Cash-Landrum UFO Case Document Collection

The Roswell Slides Research Group

Host script

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Credits:

Host and Producer: Paul Carr

Music: DJ Spooky