So many people are leaving Apple that it's a wonder it can still function with only 164,000 employees. But it's still bringing out new iPads, while Pebble has a smart ring, and the legend of Snow Leopard is back again.

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Links from the Show:

• Tyler, the Creator seals his biggest year yet as Apple Music Artist of the Year
• Apple executive shuffle continues with Lisa Jackson and Kate Adams retiring
• Dozens of staffers quit Apple, leaving behind only 164,000
• Apple CEO succession discussion enters new realm of rampant speculation
• Apple chip chief Johny Srouji rumored to consider his own exit
• Apple chief Johny Srouji confirms he isn't going anywhere
• Leak shows A19 iPad & M4 iPad Air unsurprisingly will arrive in early 2026
• Pebble's simple smart ring lets you make voice notes from your finger
• ICEBlock developer suing DOJ, ICE, & more after Apple App Store removal
• Apple's removal of ICEBlock sees repeated protests at Portland store
• Stop this myth that Snow Leopard was just some tune-up Mac release

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Your AppleInsider Podcast host Wesley Hilliard is joined by guest Tim Chaten to discuss the implications of Apple's latest high-profile departures, plus they get into the future of Apple Vision Pro on AppleInsider+.

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Links from the Show:

• Tim Chaten on Mastodon
• iPad Pros Podcast
• Vision Pros Podcast
• Be wary of the rumored connection between ChatGPT and Apple Health
• Apple's head of AI John Giannandrea is retiring
• Apple owes its greatest strength in AI to Giannandrea
• Apple's human interface design chief Alan Dye poached by Meta
• Alan Dye's departure doesn't mean Liquid Glass is going anywhere

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It's been a quiet week for Apple in the United States thanks to the Thanksgiving holiday. AppleInsider Editor Mike Wuerthele joins Wesley to discuss Tim Cook's retirement, Apple's accessibility moves, and the age-old tale of Android versus iPhone.

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Links from the Show:

• Apple CEO Tim Cook isn't retiring in 2026
• Apple's smart home display: How pieces are falling into place
• Apple partners on limited edition iPhone grip tailored for disabled users
• Hikawa iPhone grip accessory sells out fast from the online Apple Store
• Moving files between Android and iPhone just got simpler
• Apple on track to dethrone Samsung for global smartphone lead
• Google's new 'Wicked'-inspired ad takes another swing at the iPhone
• Get ready for a foldable iPhone that costs as much as a 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Apple's sports media strategy is up in the air, the Mac Pro may actually be dead this time, and Apple's doom won't be found in a single employee departure on the AppleInsider Podcast. This week's bonus segment in AppleInsider+ covers podcasts William and Wes listen to.

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Links from the Show:

• Tyler, the Creator seals his biggest year yet as Apple Music Artist of the Year
• Joe Rogan beats The Daily to top Apple Podcasts' Top Charts for 2025
• Apple TV subscribers will get Major League Soccer games for free in 2026
• MLS & Apple TV deal ends in 2029, years ahead of schedule
• Apple TV will offer Friday Night Baseball through 2028, contrary to rumors
• iOS 26.2 Side button virtual assistant settings were actually meant for Japan
• Mac Pro may never be updated, Apple backs Mac Studio instead
• In with a bang, out in silence — the end of the Mac Pro
• Expect big changes in iPhone release timing in 2026 and 2027
• iPhone Air isn't annual, iPhone Air 2 was never coming in 2026
• Next Apple Watch refresh may not happen until 2028
• Industrial designer & iPhone Air video narrator departs Apple for AI startup
• How Pixar avoided becoming 'Sillywood' when Steve Jobs took over
• HidrateSpark Pro 2 review: motivational drinking with lights, chimes, & Find My

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Willam and Wes discuss the privacy implications of smart glasses with cameras, the misreported death of iPhone Air 2, and watching jets take off from the USS Nimitz in Apple Vision Pro on this week's AppleInsider Podcast. The bonus topic for paid subscribers covers everyday carry and the tech replacing it.

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Links from the Show:

• Passports on iPhone arrive with new Digital ID feature
• Limited edition knitted iPhone Pocket launched by Apple and Japanese fashion house
• Why camera-equipped smart glasses are already a privacy disaster
• Moving Apple Fitness+ over to Health is part of Apple's 2026 AI plan
• iPhone Air 2 won't be out in 2026, claims questionable report
• Leaker backtracks: iPhone Air not canceled, is getting two cameras instead
• You can now buy Sony's VR controllers for the Apple Vision Pro
• Streaming live sports to Apple Vision Pro is a pipe dream a startup cannot easily solve
• Launch in an F-18 from the USS Nimitz in the new Apple Vision Pro immersive experience
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In the week we've had the iOS 26.1 update, it's time to look forward to iOS 26.2, plus the review is in for the M5 Apple Vision Pro, and it's claimed that Apple is replacing Siri with Google Gemini. As if, on the AppleInsider Podcast.

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Links from the Show:

• New in iOS 26.2: Liquid Glass, News, Podcasts, and Sleep Score changes
• Apple may pay $1B per year to use Google Gemini in Siri
• Apple Vision Pro with M5 review: a chip can't fix developer relations
• Expect more Apple Immersive Video thanks to streamlined production process
• M5 Apple Vision Pro vs. Samsung Galaxy XR: Processing power vs. AI
• Apple Creator Studio referenced in iOS 26.2 beta 1, but meaning is unclear
• Apple slices its logo for new Apple One branding
• Apple TV's rebrand introduces a new logo and a signature sound
• Forget Liquid Glass, Apple TV's new logo was shot with actual glass

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Affinity users can now un-cross their fingers as the fate of these apps has been revealed, as has Apple's latest earnings report, while looking ahead we can anticipate an iPad mini with an OLED screen -- but also adverts in Apple Maps.

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• How much faster is M5 versus M4?
• iPhone 17, tariffs, and more: What to expect from Apple's Q4 2025 financials
• OLED iPad mini, MacBook Air, iPad Air are in the works
• iPhone 18 Pro variable aperture camera rumor surfaces once again
• iPad Pro rumored to get iPhone 17 Pro vapor chamber cooling in early 2027
• Ads likely coming to Apple Maps in 2026
• Tantalizing clue hints at Pixelmator Pro and more coming to iPad soon
• When an ex weaponizes Family Sharing — and how little you can do
• Apple touches $4 trillion market value after surge in iPhone 17 sales
• Apple joins advisory board for 'The Game Awards'

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There's still more to find out about the M5 updates to the Apple Vision Pro and iPad Pro, plus so many rumors about the future of the iPhone -- and also just why we are able to update the storage on certain Macs.

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Links from the Show:

• How much faster is M5 versus M4?
• After the iPhone Fold, expect bezel-free & flip models in 2027 and 2028
• Relax - Apple tweaking production numbers on new iPhone models is normal
• Deep production cutbacks again rumored to hit iPhone Air supply chain
• Wells Fargo hikes AAPL target to $290 on high AI expectations
• iPhone 17 demand continues to beat analyst expectations
• New Apple Vision Pro developer strap moves data 40x faster than before
• New Apple Vision Pro with M5 doubles refresh rate of Mac Virtual Display
• How to make your own external SSD: Boost your Mac's storage cheaply
• Jon Prosser pushes back after reports claim he ignored Apple lawsuit
• Judges seems sympathetic to Apple in App Store appeal hearing
• Folding iPad release may have been delayed until 2029
• Anniversary iPhone 20 rumored to launch months earlier than expected
• iPhone 18 A20 chip will cost TSMC a lot more to make
• GM ridiculously thinks that not offering CarPlay in future cars is 'Jobsian'

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Apple has released three new devices with the M5 processor, but very few other changes. The new MacBook Pro, Apple Vision Pro, and iPad Pro are all better than their predecessors -- and they are at the same price -- but the question is whether or not they are worth upgrading to.

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Links from the Show:

• How much faster is M5 versus M4?
• Apple Vision Pro gets spec bump to M5 for enhanced spatial computing
• You can't trade-in Apple Vision Pro for a new one - yet
• Apple Vision Pro Dual Knit Band and more accessories hit Apple Store
• Lakers fans will get court-side seats with Apple Vision Pro
• New iPad Pro arrives with M5 speed, Wi-Fi 7, and Apple's C1X modem
• iPad Pro M5 vs M4 iPad Pro: Where Apple's best tablet got updated
• 14-inch M5 MacBook Pro is here without Pro and Max versions
• M5 MacBook Pro vs M4 MacBook Pro: Incremental but welcome upgrade
• SVP Eddy Cue talks Apple TV, hints at subscriber numbers, & dropping the +
• Apple TV ditch of 'plus' just adds to Apple's video branding confusion
• Apple TV+ loses the Plus in Apple's quietest rebranding exercise ever
• Rumored Apple Home Hub tablet to be made in Vietnam, cost $350
• Health+ could debut in 2026 as Apple's next subscription service
• Apple Clips social video app killed after eight years
• Steve Jobs featured on American Innovation $1 gold coin for 2026

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Apple has -- mostly -- brought back Slide Over to the iPad, while the company is looking more focused than ever on Apple Glasses, it may also be shaking up its management team. Plus speaking of teams, the Underdogs are back.

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Links from the Show:

• What's new in iPadOS 26.1 beta 2: Slide Over returns, visual tweaks
• AR screen won't come until the second generation Apple Glasses
• John Giannandrea wasn't Apple's AI savior, and the company may be looking for a replacement
• Apple's leadership page will look very different in the next five years
• One of these three Apple executives will probably be Tim Cook's replacement
• Apple's EU Digital Markets Act antitrust debacle may be settled soon
• ICEBlock app removed from App Store after DOJ demands, citing safety concerns
• Ex-execs slam Tim Cook for eroding Apple's moral authority after ICEBlock pull
• ICEBlock isn't the only ICE-tracking app that Apple and Google have removed
• Developers must comply with new Texas age requirement law, and Apple has detailed how
• Discord support was breached, and accounts vary on how bad it was
• The Underdogs return to attack Windows' Blue Screen of Death

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