This episode focuses on applying Jim Collins' business management principles from "Good to Great" to the realm of policing and other public sector organizations. It discusses the challenges and opportunities in translating concepts like Level 5 leadership, getting the right people on the bus, confronting brutal facts, and creating a culture of discipline when success isn't measured by profits. The discussion highlights the importance of identifying a core mission, leveraging technology to accelerate progress, and understanding that greatness is a sustained process, not a quick fix. Case studies from both policing and education demonstrate how these ideas can be implemented to achieve significant improvements despite inherent public sector limitations.