John talks about the development of AlphaGo/DeepMind and how it defeated Lee SeDol based on the book The Maniac about John von Neumann. What will the impact of AI be (and already is)? Roger Penrose argues that AI cannot reach self-awareness outside quantum computing in his book The Emperor's New Mind. He speaks about the impact of measurement on the the wave function and the Copenhagen Interpretation of QM. The creators of the powerful AI programs themselves cannot track or "see" what is going on in the programs. John speaks on how science uses the notion of infinity to explain away the appearance of design (mentioning the book Just Six Numbers by Martin Rees) and hence string theory with its cosmic landscape wherein "anything" that can happen MUST happen (even, for instance, such things that would appear too great for coincidence to explain). John speaks of the correspondence of Copenhagen's Interpretation with George Berkeley's Idealism. John mentions the Many Worlds Interpretation of QM was initiated by Hugh Everett III and supported by Bryce DeWitt just because the Copenhagen Interpretation seemed to support that idea that there must be an Observer outside the universe collapsing the wave function of the entire universe, which was an idea that any "good" scientist, governed by scientific materialism, must reject. Science only accepts materialistic/naturalistic explanation and seeks to get rid of the "God of the gaps." But because John believes in Romance, he rejects the materialistic world-view, and argues that science ends up erasing Romance as a notion when Romance itself is THE reason for the universe, and hence the meaning of human existence. Even should science allows for humanity to fill the universe, so what? Without knowing the ultimate purpose of existence, what inherent value would humanity possess? John goes on to describe how science uses the notion of infinity to suggest he might be a "Boltzmann brain," although John questions that assumption that memory is simply a configuration of physical characteristics within the brain. John refers to Jim Alkalili's comment at the end of his "Everything and Nothing" documentary that we humans are but the "leftovers" of the collision of matter and antimatter! Apart from Love, humanity's existence is meaningless, but this is not the case, since Love, to John, is evident as seen even through the lens of scientific discovery, and even increasingly evident as more is known (such as the further discovery of universal numbers/constants/parameters that have to be "just so" for us to be here). In addition, John urges the listener to consider the many incredible abilities humans exhibit, even if not "savants". Feats of art, music, memory, etc., cannot be explained other than some Endowment. Furthermore, Copenhagen points to a great correspondence between our own minds and One that is pointed to that upholds the universe itself as our habitation. We correspond and answer to that Mind. Why studiously ignore the obvious evidence of design and push it away by appealing to infinities, O science? There remains the testimony of many "experiencers" that points to the ultimate knowing of why we are here. Why not try the experiment that brought them into that reality?